Rising Tide #54 – Evolution and Devolution with Les Kaufman

We talk with Marine evolutionary biologist Les Kaufman about his decades of study of ocean and freshwater fish, coral reefs, human behavior and natural systems and the possibility of restoration and hope for heavily polluted and climate-impacted ecosystems from Florida’s coral reefs to Africa’s massive Lake Victoria.  Plus he used to teach our Blue Frontier Associate Director Natasha Benjamin who joins us for this conversation.